The Flaws of Moving Average Line

Do you understand how indicators work and what they are tracking? It is to show us the current trend based on the average price of long term & short term or volatility of a particular stock, based on the price movement and/or the volume.

However, the indicator will start pointing the other way, if there is a sudden huge movement in the price. This always confuses many investors & traders, not knowing which direction the indicator is pointing at.

For example, Moving Average (MA) is a common indicator used by many traders to justify a reversal of a price trend. It is often used together with short term 50 MA & long term 200 MA to find out “The Golden Cross” and “The Dead Cross”, which means a confirmation of trend reversal.

Let us point out a few questions that many traders will face when applying MA lines crossed for your investment decision.

1. How do we confirm that the short-term MA has successfully crossed long term MA?

2. What if the short-term MA crosses the other way after it has a confirmation?

How do we confirm that the short-term MA has successfully crossed long term MA?

In the above chart, the red line is 50MA, green line is 200MA.

Based on the information we can get about Moving Average Dead cross or golden dead cross, the confirmation is often when the short-term MA crosses the long term MA (blue circle). If you are following this confirmation for exit. You might have lost (-48.81%) from the highest closing price.

Or we can add on another Exponential Moving Average (EMA) which is more sensitive to the price fluctuations (is still based on the average price of the stock) like the chart below for earlier exit.

By the time the EMA confirmed it is crossing down 50 MA, the price will be closing at 0.675. Your losses are further reduced to -19.64%, which is still quite a huge loss for some traders.

The reason why the lines cross later is because the Moving Average is using the average stock price of X no. of days. The shorter the time frame you set for your MA the more sensitive it is to the price change. Which means, applying MA to decide the exit or entry for your investment will always be a few steps later than analysing the price action.

As an investor or trader, we want to know the intention of the big boys. In order for us to follow the “Market” AKA the big boy, the most direct signal of knowing the big boys’ intention is through the price volume actions. By analysing the transaction data done by the big boys and understanding their intention to distribute shares that will cause a trend reversal. Instead of following the moving average which derives from the average price. Unless there is a huge price movement, or else the MA line will not cross immediately. Which is also too late for your exit, because the price has dropped lower.

That also contributes to why investors & traders are reluctant to cut loss or exit when there's a dead cross. Because the losses are huge or miss out on the profit opportunity earlier and it is too painful to cut losses or exit. And they end up holding the stock & apply “Hope Analysis”.

If you feel the same about Moving Average and wish to find out more about how big boys operate in the stock market, you may head to our YouTube Channel or FB page to watch the videos we posted about big boys in the stock market. Or you can also go to our 6 months training course’s landing page link to watch the details explanation of big boys

What if the short-term MA crosses the other way after it has a confirmation?

Having the right setting for Moving Average (MA) is always the problem faced by many investors and traders. If it is set to be too sensitive (shorter days), the MA line will often cross up & down easily, causing confusion to investors on whether the MA cross is confirmed. If it is less sensitive (longer days), then the decision to exit is too late and causes huge losses or misses out huge profits like what we have shared earlier in this post. 

Like the chart above, short term EMA crosses down (Orange box) on the huge price drop. Then it crosses back up again and crosses down again later. If you exit at the first cross down with the huge price drop. You would have lost a huge amount of profit or losses and would feel regret right after the rebound.

From the above you can see that traders & investors are often knowing all the reversal too late because the tools that they use to analyse stocks are slow by nature. Not just indicators that show signs of laggy, chart patterns too. You may look at the live stream we did with in FB to find out more about why chart patterns & resistance breakout is a late entry for all traders in this link .

These are the problems why retail investors are not able to achieve consistent profit from the stock market. Because the analysis that retail investors apply is too slow for them to make decisions to maximize their potential profits in their investment.

That’s why we have thrown all our Technical Analysis away & adopted following the big boys in the stock market by analysing the price & volume data to gauge the intention of the big boys. Starting from their accumulation and exit when the price volume action shows that they have distributed the majority of their shareholding. When the big boys have lesser shares in hand, it means that they are not going to mark up the price and they will soon sell their shares into the market and cause a price fall or a trend reversal.

The main difference between following big boys and using the traditional analysis (chart patterns, indicators), you know the price reversal is coming soon with Operator Analysis and for TA you know it after the price fall.

  • When you understand the big boys, you will know they have distributed the majority of the share & the price will soon start to reverse.
  • Apply indicators or chart patterns: you will notice the trend reverse when the price starts to fall (causing MA line or indicators to cross lower / support broken).

This is the reason why many traders & investors are always looking for the right strategies or setting for their Technical Analysis. There is nothing wrong with the setting or the combination of your indicators and chart pattern strategy. It is because the analysis itself is not applicable to the current market.

Watch the videos in the link to understand how big boys work:

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